Just wondering about the kind of percentage chance of success other FS out there are giving their patients. I have always been told given my age, egg quality etc etc that we were looking at around 40% success rate. However one of my closest friends just had her first IVF stim cycle and on the day of embryo transfer her FS told her she had a 90% chance of success. I nearly fell over - mainly because she now thinks it can't fail and i am so worried for her.
Has anyone else ever been given such a high success rate???
Last edited by mollygirl1977; October 1st, 2008 at 08:34 PM.
I'm 30, was 29 at pick up and transfer, and was told our chances were almost 50% (paperwork said 48%)
90% seems like a huge number to be telling a patient?
i was told i had a "good" chance with some of my embies as they had defrosted, and were dividing beautifully. from that, i gathered maybe 50/50. i can't believe anyone would tell someone they have 90% chance - thats just ludicrous! it's setting the person up for massive pain if it doesn't work! even if the clinic think there is a high chance of success, i can't see them saying 90% on any given cycle!
the only thing i can think is if they said 90% chance of eventually getting her pg, and she's taken that as the chances for THIS cycle kwim?
Sorry...have to say this...what a load of bollocks! There is no way IVF will give you a higher success than normal fertility.
The doctor should be shot for saying something so irresponsible to a patient who is in a very vulnerable state like that. For her sake I hope it works...she is in for a big crash if it doesnt.
I honestly can't imagine that a doctor would say something like that to a patient, as the highest statistics I've seen quoted anywhere have been a success rate of around 42% for a blastocyst transfer in a woman under the age of 35.
For an individual cycle, I don't think the doctors can actually tell whether or not an embryo is going to implant or not. I've left the transfer room with my doctor saying "see you in two weeks for a pregnancy ultrasound", and only ever taken it to be a message of being positive, not a guarantee that it would work. That cycle ended in a chemical pregnancy, so I guess he was almost right.
The only way I can make sense of a doctor saying this is as BG has said - it's a lifetime chance of IVF working, if you stick at it long enough, not a chance for an individual cycle to work.
I totally agree with everything you have all said...........i checked with her to clarify and she is adament. He told her the embryo was AA quality and as she has been pregnant before, he was positive this time would work. I am completely shocked too - it is totally irresponsible and unprofessional.
Statistics - ignore them they just get your hopes up. There are sooo many variables that need to be right that it's statistically difficult to quantify...
I agree with Sheree - stats really mean nothing when you are the individual involved. Personally, I HATE statistics - they just make you feel more anxious when you don't seem to fall into the majority percntage
I was given 10-15% chance of success with each IUI cycle yet was very lucky to fall pg 3 times from 6 cycles. Conversely, on seeing great little HBs on several of my early pg scans, its meant to mean a 95% chance the pg will continue just fine - just look at my ticker to see how totally irrelevant that stat is!!
NO one, even the best FS knows what any one individual's chance of success is going to be!
Even though there are stats
its just a roll of the dice . . . . .
we have had 7 top quality embys put back and had twins from them and a m/c at 12 weeks
there was nothing done different in the quality etc- its was just pot luck what took and what didnt
its harsh but that is what it is- timing, fate and a heap of chance
I'm at the other end of the scale ... I was told by the IVF specialist in Jan (I had just turned 42) that "I had a very slim chance of falling pregnant EVEN on IVF " ... purely because of my age & nothing else (I had a previous Lap & then two recent internal ultrasounds ... the specialist told me all was great with my reproductive system, etc ...)
DP (32) & me (42) walked out of the clinic just guttered & in shock because we had no intentions of going through IVF (I was in there for other reasons) & we were NOT expecting to be given that news considering I had out 1st child naturally & at 40 !!
Sorry, lurking here - any update on your friend... was it a +ive.?
I have heard of FS quoting upto 50% success rates - but as others have said - it really depends on the individual, not just age and quality.
Even the poorest quality embryos can turn into take-home babies, just the same as top AA grade embryos fail to implant - there are no guarantees with IVF.
Hoping your friend got a positive though, especially after the FS getting her hopes up so high.
Well unfortunately her result was a and she was of course devastated. I think she may actually leave the clinic she was going to and try mine.
I have been missing in action lately - busy with friends from overseas visiting but am back on track now and start synarel tomorrow for my next cycle - egg pick up planned for 28/11
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and she was of course devastated. I think she may actually leave the clinic she was going to and try mine.
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