Babies Born May 16th ~ 31st 2008 #4

[sassy123]

mis: it must really suck having to send him to XP when u know things like this will happen. what do u think the rash is from?

[Je$$_84]

Sass- DP thinks he's king sh!t now.... but not making him be more./....well 'fatherly" He's just loving how she follows him with her eyes and calls out to him all day.
About the next baby.... i could easily go again (have had DP scared already) we'll wait til DD is 12 months at least (for DP's sanity not mine) And i just want to enjoy her as much as i can. Plus i figure 12 months plus 9 months of pregnancy (remember how long that is) is more then enough time to wait for another miracle

NaNa- LOL about your metrosexual hubby... mine on the other hand was an Engine reconditioner by trade... Always greasy, dirty... always working in new clothes... i keep telling him to wear older clothes while doing him odd jobs but nope its always the Whitest newest t shirt when he goes out to fiddle with cars or did on the garden, making this or building that... My DS on the other hand used to freak out when he got dirty but DP has helped out with that now he's digging in the dirt and playing in mud when ever he can... GRRRRR Thanks for the advice on the probiotic... i was thinking bout it but i'm having issues getting to take the neurophen and AB as is... plus forcing him to have fluids. i finally got him to eat some jelly today.. .his mouth is so sore, its bad enough when you bite your tongue and get an ulcer but to have so many on your tongue, mouth, throat and lips. We just found out today from the Doc that it is a form of herpes... (like a coldsore) i freaked out but he said its very common amongst kids could have picked it up NUMEROUS places... i'm already strict on washing hands and using that antiseptic liquid stuff (you know that you dont need to wash off) Guess i need to be stricter.

Mis sorry to hear about DS and his rash... i know both kids' eczema plays up in the sun. What does the rash look like??? could it be a heat rash??? As for the sleeping in his own room... i think its up to you as the parent.

Bec- glad cam went well at your mums. Hope he's feeling better soon with his cold... poor thing... and YAY on the rolling too...

Well i was feeling a tad empty this arvo and had no EBM in the freezer so i made a little bit of Formula for DD. She fussed at first but then drank about 60mls of the 120... feeling very down about it but i guess it will come down to it sooner or later. Not giving up... Will try to express as often as i can to pick up my supply and get some in stock. at least she drank it. so i guess i'll just look at the positive and say YAY she had a bottle...
Dp is at work now so i'm off to bath the kids... hoping tonight DD decides to have a decent sleep....

[sassy123]

nana: my hubby doesnt care about gettin his hands dirty but when it comes to a pooy nappy he is liek urs. it takes him so long it ends up all over the change table and if any gets on his hand like a tiny spot he runs around like a fairy lol.

Jess: dont worry about having to give her some formula its better then nothing. i know u knwo this but try not to stress about it it will only make it harder to get some out lol.
i remember the doc and nurses telling me to relax while i was tryin to express. i mean seriously i had a huge chunk out of my nipple and i expressed more blood then milk how relaxing is that lol.

bec: yay onthe rolling both ways. is he rolly pollying everywhere now? we cant keep jayda still.

[NaNa]

Just a quick one, on my way to playgroup!
Bec - welcome back!
Mis - grrrr at XP! Maybe it's boys germs? lol!
Jess - I know that rash... I had a minor case of it when I was working at a childcare centre. Apparently it's transferred thru saliva, and I was washing all the dishes and cutlery for 45 kids... I got the rash all over my fingertips and it was awful. Like burning hot needles tracing my fingerprints... *shudder* apparently it's quite common in kids, nurses, childcare workers etc. Doctors were useless tho, and I am SO lucky it didn't progress to mouth ulcers and the likes. Poor Jordan! Get healthy, little man! Good luck with it.
BBL!

[Abb34]

Morning everyone
Just a quick one as computer is playing up and keeps freezing on me this morning (might be a hint to do some housework) lol.
Hamish is a bit restless atm with teething and seems alot cuddlier than normal and is getting a little clingy towards me lately too. He still goes to anyone without much fuss but has me in his eye sight most of the time, its cute but hope it doesn't go to the extreme of not settling without me.
Bec wb was thinking you had ditched us lol glad cameron went well at your mums but bummer about the colds, hope you are both feeling better soon.
Sass my brother is like that with nappys too, i guess i am lucky with my dp he will change nappies no worries actually he does everything without a worry i guess i am lucky in that way. Dd's father was useless at everything, picked a good one this time though lol
NaNa have fun at playgroup, i must look into taking Hamish soon, he needs to play with other bubs, although he has lots of cousins only one that is close in age (12months) lives close by.
Jess I hope you are looking after yourself too with getting no sleep and Jordan being sick aswell. I hope things improve for you soon.
Mis Tree how is Seth's rash has it cleared up at all?

Ok i better go do some more laundry, it never ends in this house, i am over washing..

[mis_tree]

How is everyone this morning?

Bec I hope you guys start feeling better. Nice to see you back

Abb - You are being far more energitic than myself. Im living out of washing baskets at the moment So many nappies in there too lol. Hows Hamish's teething going? I found cold carrot sticks were a life saver I can see his tooth from the front of the gum but it has dasappeared from the top again. bah! So this one is being a pita big time. But he doesnt seem too worried.

NaNa - how old are the other children in your playgroup? I was thinking of taking DS on my day off but the only group available then is open to all ages and Im not sure that they would understand a little baby if they are all like 2 or 3 kwim?

Last night DS slept like a dream...in his own cot too He hasnt done that in weeks. I ended up with him in my bed at 530 but I get up at 630 anyway so I wanted snuggles lol. He tried tricking my sister who was watching him yesterday and it worked. He went to sleep for 20 minutes nad then woke up and put it on. She rang my mum and she told her that she had been fooled and to put him down and if he did it again to pick him up burp him and back to bed. The rule in our house is anything less than an hour and you go back to bed. Which works as I think he just gets bored and sleeps anyway

Jess sorry to hear about the milking issues. I know I find it really hard and unless im full or have a baby on the other boob then I dont let down for the pump anymore. Hence I try to stockpile up as much as possible jic.

As for his rash it was all red and blotchy everywhere and he had a few pimple like things over his mouth. Its gone atm though thank god. But I had some serious words with his father about it this morning! He still claims he has no idea nd I told him the difference between excema and the rash and showed him and I told him that he has to keep an eye on him because he will put everything in his mouth. I asked him if he had been on the grass and he said no so
I thought it might've been a grass rash as I was allergic to grass too when I was little. Plus it looksed very much like one he had after we had played on the grass but on his face and chest. .

Well catch you all soon, have a beautiful day

[NaNa]

I'm back... but forgot what I was going to say so much happening today! um, yeah, playgroup is fun. It's just a bunch of mums from the MCHN new parents group, one of them was organised and proactive (not me!!) and booked a hall at the local neighbourhood centre for a couple of hours a week. Not everyone from the original group still come, and some weeks there's just a few of us, but this week there was 9, and someone even organised a morning tea roster! So all the babies are around the same age roughly, 4-6 months. We're lucky we have a big space with play mats where we can all just dump the bubs and let them "play" together and have a bit of a chat. The other mums are all really lovely. I was apprehensive about it at first, coz it could have potentially been a real yummy mummies crew, as we're all living in a suburb that's recently become trendy and a real hotspot for newly-rich hipster wannabes, but they're all really cool. I'll have to wait and see about introducing DS to older kiddies tho. He was a bit temperamental today because I took some of his toys along and made him share them!! It's a good opportunity for us mums to just get out of the house anyway, and that's vital.
Hope everyone's having a great day, sorry no personals, I need lunch now! Haven't stopped!

[Je$$_84]

Hi all, Well things here are all over the shop... DS is still crook, Dp on night shift and DD screaming all day. We had 5 wake ups last night so at 7.30 i fed her booby then at 8.30 i decided i would give her a solid feed. (half a tin of apple and bananna oatmeal... ) she played for a bit being sooky and at 10.30 i topped her up and put her to bed. She slept for only 20 mins. i thought the solid feed would make mer sleep longer... So i let her play for a bit but she wouldnt. She just cried and screamed unless i help her. at 12.30 i told DP i was going up the shop to get lunch and i wasnt taking her so i went. As soon as i got back she started screaming again.... i expressed and only got 60ml FROM BOTH SIDES but i decided to add some farex as i thought the reason she didnt want the bottle was cos it came out too fast... Well she drank it ALL... was so happy... she played a bit but was very cranky. I gave her som potato (inside of the hot chip... (naughty but she loved it) She then sucked on the dummy for a bi in the highchair but within 15 mons was screaming and whinging again. i topped her up at about 2.45 and put her to bed and she slept for 3 hours. YAY... she is now happily playing under the play gym. I'm hoping to feed her soon then bath and then a solid feed (i know should feed 1st but i want her relaxed) then a little play and a top up and fingers crossed i'll get me some sleep... Please please...

Crap BBL... My friend just got here

[mis_tree]

OH dear Jess sounds very full on with you at the moment. I hope DS starts to feel better soon and DD lets you get some much needed sleep.

Just popped my little head in to say TWO FRONT TEETH and its not even christmas yet! Such a clever boy. He will even roll from his tummy to his back now if he is cranky enough lol.

[NaNa]

awww Jess, you poor thing! Hope you got some sleep.

mis - Yay! WTG!
Aadi's 2nd tooth is almost here now too. I can see it. Poor poopy kid... it was soooo hot last night, plus he had a temp and was just so tired but still woke up twice, and for an hour at 4.30. He's moaning and whinging on my lap now. Must really hurt. Hopefully the panadol will ease it a bit, coz he's blowing raspberries out of sheer frustration! wont feed, wont sleep. It's going to be a long, hot day...

[Abb34]

NaNa i hear ya on the poops and no feeds its crazy although Hamish is still sleeping, 1wake up last night and the dummy worked so pretty good considering. He slept from 9.30 to 6am. His mouth is driving him crazy during the day, i have been rubbing sm33 on them but he has come out in a rash and i am thinking it maybe from that not sure.

Stanky two teeth wow.

Jess well done on going to the shop on your own, i know it was only brief but atleast its a start. I hope Jordan is improving for you, may need a visit to the naturapath maybe, my nephew was always catching everything when he was young until my sis took him and they build up his immune system and has been a totally different kid since health and behaviour wise, just a thought. How did Tiahna sleep last night?

Well i best be off going out for lunch today, is my best friends birthday so hopefully Hamish behaves. And off to mus this afternoon they just got back from holidays and are anxious to see Hamish and Maddi. Hope you all have a nice day.

[Je$$_84]

Mis- YAY.... hope your not having too many issues with them

NaNa- Hope Things get better with Aadi...

Abb- Glad hamish had a good night... i know some ofthe mouth gel stuff can cause issues... A friend of ours cant use Bongella with er some as he gets a rash and throws up... might have to try a different one... Or try the bruers...

Also with DS i think its prescchool. Once they go its never ending...
Spoke with the lady at the chemist today who suggested multi vitamins and omega 3 fish oil. so will give them a go oce he's off the AB.

We had another bad night... I though my plan would have worked... I fed her then gave her almost a full tin tin of pureed veges and then a bath massage and played for a bit then a top up then went to bed to settle herself at 8 but was awake at 11 tried to settle her but no good so fed her. then woke up at 1 again tried to settle her but ended up needing to feed her. then again at 3, 5 and then 7,.30 she woke up for good. Lukily DP got up at the 3 and 7.30 for me... he's trying...

[NaNa]

It's been unbearably hot today... 35 degrees is yucky when bubs is teething. But the tooth has cut thru, so here's hoping the crankiness subsides a bit. Aadi has wanted lots of cuddles but it's just too hot and sticky so he's been pretty frustrated and reluctant to do anything much, but he's still managing to laugh at me so that's good! And the diarrhea stopped after this morning, thank goodness! TMI...

Jess, a naturopath is a good idea, and the multi vitamins and fish oils too. Just to boost the immune system and general health coz AB are nasty to the immune system, and preschools are just crawling with bugs - one kid gets sick, everyone gets sick, including the family members... Can't wait for those times! blah...
Sorry you had another rough nite. At least your DP got up to her, don't know how you can do it otherwise! I handed Aadi over to DP at 4.15 this morning coz I'd had enough of being kicked and scratched after half an hour of it. Hope it passes soon.

Abb - hope you had a nice day out, and I bet your mum's thrilled to see the kids.

oohhhh it's tooo hot! I'm melting...

[Je$$_84]

NaNa- yeah very hot here too... blah... hate the heat... i like those nice sunny but cool days with a nice light cool breeze. I love the cuddles but wish DD wouldnt want them all the time now.. She's been VERY whingy and sooky for the last month more then usual... today she had a 2 hour sleep which was good but i had DS up so i didnt get a chance to catch up on any rest. (i was on here so i guess sitting on my a$$ is rest... hehe)

Well i just gave DD a BIG bottle of EBM with some farex in it and she drank about 190mls out of the 240. (was from way back when my supply was plentiful) now i have no EBM in the freezer and today i brought some sachet of formula but just as a back up as things are looking bleak... need to step up the fluid but OMG 3 litres is so much for me at the moment i couldnt go an extra litre but am trying. How much do you ladies drink??? How many of you are still BF??? any issues??? and comp feeds and how many solids???

Yesterday we tried 2 solid feeds but sisnt make much difference. today she didnt want any i think cos it was so hot she just wanted to drink???

Got the referal today for DS's speach and also to the pead for behaviour and speach management. Hopefully i'll have time to get DD weighed tomorrow at the chemist... (they have a CHN come in every thursday which i just found out...

I feel really defeated but know i've done well to get to 5 1/2 months with all the supply issues... hoping things will resolve them self... The GP today wasnt much help... he was like "supply usually drops at 6 months, you can just formula feed now they recommend BF til 6 months and you've almost done that" Like WTF... Where is the support and boost in confidence

Also Love the new ticker pic NaNa

[NaNa]

Jess, that sucks, what the GP said! Male doctor... grrrr! I wish I could help ya, I have a freezer full of EBM and no use for it. Tried to give Aadi some today but he wouldn't touch it. Just wants to chew on the teat.
I'm drinking extra on these hot days and if I'm walking lots, but nowhere near 3 litres. I take a maternal multi-vitamin, iron and calcium-magnesium (when I remember, coz you can't take it with iron coz it prevents absorption), and I eat fairly healthily but that comes with being dedicated vegetarian for over 12 years. But I don't know if any of that contributes to supply. Everyone's different. I would be getting another opinion, tho, from other sources than doctors. Don't give up because of one guy's thoughtless comment. You're doing great to get this far, and hopefully you'll be able to continue, but it's not the end of the world if you can't.
As for the sooking, I know I read somewhere that teething symptoms can go for a few months before the tooth shows... could be that? All the babies at playgroup the other day were sooky too, so it's definitely a phase!
Hope everyone else is having a cool day. I'm feeling a bit wilted...

[Je$$_84]

Hi all... Well last night was a bit better... I gave DD the EBM with farex at about 8 and and slept til 1.30 i put the dummy in and she settled herself and then woke up again at 2.30 but after an hour of trying to settle her i gave in and fed her. She had a quick feed and went back to sleep and woke up at 7 so i'm WRAPPED it wasnt 5 feeds.

I'm off to go shopping today for DS's b'day... left it til the last minute as usual. hopefully i'll get in to see the CHN also...

Best be off... Hope all is well

NaNa- i think its teething and also the lack of supply in the late arvo to night. i'm just not filling up these days. i have been expressing and even 1st morning feed i'm only getting 70 mls from both sides combined. and thats before she's fed. its like i'm just not making much at all... we'll keep at it thou... not giving up just yet. I'm trying few things and if worst comes to worst i'll sup feed the night one and express before bed to try to keep up supply.

[Abb34]

Oh this weather is driving me crazy and its not even summer yet, its so much harder to manage the heat with a baby. I am not a big fan of the heat anyway but Hamish hasn't been coping very well either. I have stopped using SM33, the rash is still there but doesn't seem to be getting any worse, thought it maybe a heat rash though, but i will see what happens with it over the next few days. Hamish seems to be waking earlier each morning today it was 5.30 yesterday 6 and day before 6.30, i shouldnt complain really but once you get use to something its hard to deal with change, and i need to go to bed earlier myself, haven't been going to bed before 11 lately. Had a beautiful lunch yesterday and Hamish timed his sleep beautifuly sleeping while i ate, then spent the afternoon at mums which was nice. They were so excited to see him and couldn't believe how much he had grown in a few weeks. My mum lives only about a 2 min walk from our house so we see them every few days and i think they missed Hamish while away.
NaNa how is aadi? the other tooth through yet, he has grown so much, very gorgeous.

Jess you are not having much luck atm, i wouldnt listen to that doctor, maybe your supply is down because of stress and tiredness,you have had a lot to deal with lately, are you looking after yourself? I drink a fair bit of water, probably not as much as i should though, maybe around 8 glasses a day, Hamish has a feed when wakes up then about 1 -2 hours after he has farex with stewed apples or pears then another feed 2 hours later then one more usually 3 hours and 1 hour after his afternoon feed he has vegetables (atm pumpkin, sweet potato & carrot) then 3 hours later bottle and bed. Lately he has been having an extra small feed mid afternoon but only has one side, more of a comfort thing while teething i think. I hope things improve for you soon.

Ok i best be off clean this house, have work tonight. Have a nice day everyone

[Bec7]

Hi All,

Not sure how long I've got, as Cameron's been asleep for just over 2hours, so will likely wake very soon.

Jess - you are possibly low in supply because of the stress and lack of sleep. I get like this often. I've started to feel really low in supply over the last week or so, because of stress and now this cold (which I'm finding hard to get any sleep cause of the annoying cough everytime I lay down..GRRR). But I seem to go through fazes where I'm feeling low one week, then overflowing the next (I think I've posted a few times with the same concerns). I do occassional formula feeds (usually express before I do this and add it to my freezer supply instead). We also use ebm for that last feed (therefore I know he has had a good feed before bed, and not likely to need another one during the night), then I express before I go to bed (this is usually an hour or 2 after that feed), which usually gives me more so I can stock it up.

Abb and Nana- Yuck about the heat. Luckily it hasn't been really hot up this way (more like its been rather cold, windy and rainy). Abb - Glad Hamish slept well for you while out.

We went out for dinner with extended family on Saturday night, where my cousin from Townsville had come down, but not long after arriving there, Cameron got tired and I was able to slip him into his pram where he slept the remainder of the night - my poor cousin didn't even get a cuddle (so she visited on Tuesday - even though I felt like sh!t, I didn't want her to miss out). Cameron was too well behaved on this occassion where there was many arms out to hold him.

Mis - Yay on the Stanky's two front teeth. He'll be chomping on steak before ya know it.

Sassy - IKWYM now about not being able to keep up with Jayda. Yesterday Cameron just wanted to keep on rolling, I've got a big blanket on the floor in the lounge room where he is now rolls from one end to the other. Can't take my eyes off him now.

Well not much else happening here. Cameron seems to have lost interest in solids, have tried the last 2 days (as hadn't offered it for the last week because of his cold - especially with his almost barking cough). He just keeps spitting it out, so might give it a rest for a few days. I also find it hard to fit into the day without cutting out a feed. We still do 5 feeds (most days), usually around the same times still 7, 10.30, 1.30-2, 4.30, then wake up 8, and Cameron has a least an hour sleep between each feed. How do you's all find the time to squeeze in a solid feed? So far we've tried the solid feed about 30mins after the 2nd feed, but I really don't think he is hungry (or at the moment interested).

Somebody had also asked about what peoples plans are with future babies. Well because it took so many years to have Cameron, we are not taking any precautions. If it happens it happens, although would prefer they have a bigger age gap and i would like to learn a little more about raising 1 baby before I go and have another. I hadn't had a visit from AF since Sept last year, and started to feel like I might be (queasy, almost fainting a few times, cravings etc), so last week I did a HPT just to be sure and funnily enough was disappointed when it read negative. For us it would be such a savings of $$$ if it happened naturally, even though it would probably cost us more to buy things and I probably wouldn't get any more paid maternity leave - think i'd have to be back at work for a certain time to qualify again (not too sure though).

Cameron has also started waking a few times a night, last night was 11, night before was 12 and 2, Monday night was about 2, yet Sunday he slept through. Luckily though all I do is rewrap him, give him a little pat on my shoulder then lay him back down, put his musical/light seahorse on and off he goes back to sleep. I still wrap him but only wrap his bottom half, both arms are out - haven't had the energy to try unwrapped, maybe when it warms up again and I've gotten rid of this cold (when I'm sleeping better)

Well Cameron has slept better then I expected (bummer - should have tried to sleep myself - I gave up after 40mins thinking he would wake). Might try to have some lunch before he wakes instead.

Bye for now